极速赛车168官网 Comments on: 3 Easy Steps to Show that Absolute Truth Exists https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Mon, 06 Mar 2023 03:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: Veiled Heat https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-231906 Mon, 06 Mar 2023 03:15:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-231906 In reply to Sqrat.

There are far too many evidences that God DOES exist to claim that it is absolute and knowable. It is a highly debatable notion at best.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Veiled Heat https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-219560 Mon, 12 Jul 2021 04:26:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-219560 In reply to Veiled Heat.

Short version: Atheism is self defeating.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Veiled Heat https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-219559 Mon, 12 Jul 2021 04:25:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-219559 In reply to Sqrat.

If God does not exist then all reason and logic is subjective since there is no over arching mind that is a constant standard to judge reason against. Your "mind" is merely your brain reacting to and with chemicals and firing synapses. Therefore, you have no basis to think that your reasoning is objectively and absolutely true. You are merely reacting to stimuli. Since you have no basis for saying then that God does not exist objectively your statement is false.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Phil Tanny https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-202210 Sat, 31 Aug 2019 16:44:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-202210 Joe, all the logic calculations you're doing here would seem to depend for their value on the rules of human reason being binding upon all of reality. What if concepts like self refuting and illogical etc simply aren't relevant to everything everywhere, a realm that, um, we can't define in even the most basic manner?

BTW, I've presented this same challenge to atheists regularly for years, and they've yet to overcome it, because there is no way to prove that human reason is binding at the enormous scales typically being examined by such conversations.

And when you think about it just a bit, it's not very likely that human reason is so qualified. Human beings are very very very small in comparison to the scales being discussed, and even if reason is universally relevant, our ability to reason is near fatally poor.

I believe a solution to this problem lies within the Catholic experience, the act of love. That surrender of the self brings peace, and with peace one is no longer so concerned with all the huge unanswerable questions. My wife is such a creature, clearly I am not, full disclosure.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Phil Tanny https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-202209 Sat, 31 Aug 2019 16:30:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-202209 In reply to Joseph Noonan.

In the sense that I think you mean it, agreed. It seems very unlikely a sane healthy person could permanently have no beliefs. That said, it's true that some folks are profoundly a-philosophical, so what beliefs they have might be limited to relatively small matters of day to day life.

It seems worth saying that it's certainly possible to temporarily not have beliefs, even for great philosophers such as ourselves. :-) Beliefs are made of thought. To the degree that the volume of thought is lowered or eliminated, beliefs vanish.

We might wish to temporarily not have beliefs because that would shift the focus of our awareness away from the internal symbolic realm towards the external real world. If one is attempting to determine whether a God exists in the real world, or one is attempting to connect with that God, this would seem to matter more than a little bit.

I would propose that religions are typically launched by those who focus on direct experience, and then maintained by less ambitious folks who are content with God as an idea.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Joseph Noonan https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-202208 Sat, 31 Aug 2019 16:15:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-202208 All of these supposedly popular claims are strawmen. When it comes to "absolute truth", no one claims that there are no facts that are absolutely true - people are generally referring to moral absolutism. It is not a moral absolute to say that there are no moral absolutes, so the proposition is not self-contradictory.
Philosophical skepticism (which is actually an extremely unpopular position that almost no one holds) does not claim to know for certain that nothing can be known. The most common formulation of skepticism is "Nothing can be known, not even this." If someone says that, they are not, as you claim, vlaiming to know it. At most, they are claiming to believe it. Your assertion that "when you say 'I don’t know if we can know anything for certain,' you’re saying that you know for certain that you’re ignorant on the matter," is ridiculous. Someone who says that is literally saying the exact opposite of that. They're saying "I don't know", not "I know for certain". Do you think that, in order to say something, someone has to know for certain that it is true?
Yes, the truest skeptics would not even make arguments. That's because they have no beliefs (or at least, they think they do - I have doubts as to whether it's even psychologically possible for a person to hold absolutely no beliefs). Having no beliefs might be silly, but it isn't self-contradictory (by definition, it can't be).
Finally, scientific materialism doesn't say that “All truth is empirically or scientifically testable.” Not even close. Even logical positivism (a position which is basically dead anyway) doesn't go that far.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Mark https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-200771 Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:37:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-200771 In reply to edwinmccravy.

God is always described with anthropomorphic language because it is the the closest approximation to God we have in language to convey the will of God. Classical theists don't claim that God creates how a human creates, but it is both of their natures and will to create but the term is not univocal. For Catholics, it's always been understood this way:

“Men, indeed, are not able to make something from nothing, but only from
existing material. God, however, is greater than men first of all in
this: that when nothing existed beforehand, he called into existence the
very material for his creation” (Ireneas, Against Heresies 2:10:4 [A.D. 189])

God doesn't see, hear, hold, touch, walk in the garden, sit at a throne, or create in a manner you suggest, only metaphorically as best we can understand with our finite and limited knowledge.

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极速赛车168官网 By: edwinmccravy https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-200765 Tue, 09 Jul 2019 02:26:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-200765 "God" is meaningless because "creator of the universe" is meaningless". The word "creator" can only be learned from cases of usage of "creator" such as "Edison created the light bulb", Edison is one part of the universe and the light bulb is another part of the universe. All cases of uses of "creator" from which we could have learned "creator" are such as that. So "God created the universe" would have to mean "One part of the universe labeled 'God' created another part of the universe labeled 'the universe'". That obviously makes no sense, so "God" makes no sense.

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极速赛车168官网 By: edwinmccravy https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-200764 Tue, 09 Jul 2019 02:19:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-200764 Everybody labels everything they believe as "truth". You are always speaking correctly when you label whatever you believe as "truth".

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极速赛车168官网 By: tmrbeste https://strangenotions.com/3-easy-steps-to-show-that-absolute-truth-exists/#comment-199653 Fri, 24 May 2019 18:03:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5751#comment-199653 This is amazing! Ty!

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