极速赛车168官网 Comments on: What the Media Got Wrong about Pope Francis and Evolution https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: aja https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-192831 Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:22:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-192831 In reply to Valence.

May I suggest reading this book; Theistic Evolution: A Scientific, Philosophical, and Theological Critique
Moreland, J. P., et al.. It is very well done, scholarly and available at Amazon.

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极速赛车168官网 By: dougshaver https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-179723 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 09:25:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-179723 In reply to Brian Nugent.

all acts of God in our world have a certain implausibility. so what.

I'm not sure I understand. Are you asking whether the question "Is X plausible?" has any relevance to the question "Do I have a good reason to believe X?"

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极速赛车168官网 By: Jim (hillclimber) https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-179716 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:28:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-179716 In reply to Brian Nugent.

I see. Thanks for clarifying.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Brian Nugent https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-179715 Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:19:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-179715 In reply to Jim (hillclimber).

God is all knowing. therefore, no problem.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Jim (hillclimber) https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-179707 Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:22:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-179707 In reply to Brian Nugent.

Even if that is true, it's not clear to me how that resolves the problem that I referred to: how would anyone have known what was going on near the Holy of Holies at the moment when Jesus gave up his spirit? Respectfully, I'm now imagining Dixie Cup telephone communication between the temple and Calvary?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Brian Nugent https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-179705 Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:01:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-179705 In reply to Doug Shaver.

implausible? all acts of God in our world have a certain implausibility. so what.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Brian Nugent https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-179703 Thu, 31 Aug 2017 18:57:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-179703 In reply to Jim (hillclimber).

the veil was torn was most likely torn by God. therefore there is no problem.

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极速赛车168官网 By: dougshaver https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-179513 Sat, 26 Aug 2017 02:58:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-179513 In reply to Kevin Mark.

please, do not give up on God.

I never gave up on him. I gave up on people who say they know something about him.

He is faithful and He will show you the truth of Christ.

You say so.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Kevin Mark https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-171734 Thu, 03 Nov 2016 20:43:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-171734 In reply to David Nickol.

Catholic evolutionists suggest that they are not doing a disservice to the text of the Holy Scriptures (specifically Genesis), and that the original authors did not intend the early chapters of Genesis to be taken literally. These same Catholic evolutionists highly value the opinions of the experts. Barr's quote shows that it is entirely inconsistent to hold to the above view. The reason this is significant is because one of the most important principles of Scriptural exegesis/hermeneutics is interpreting the original intent of the author. To suggest that one is holding to the original intent of the author flies in the face of expert opinion. And thus one is forced to either reject expert opinion, reject Genesis (and the whole Catholic faith) as myth, or become a Catholic creationist. I assert that the last option is the most reasonable.

The modern historical consensus is wrong regarding 'two creation accounts.... that are not consistent with one another." This is a modernist thought that is used by many to attempt to discredit the veracity of Genesis. The two accounts are absolutely reconcilable. The following link explains further (I am not endorsing the entire website, merely the following page):
http://apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=1131

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极速赛车168官网 By: David Nickol https://strangenotions.com/what-the-media-got-wrong-about-pope-francis-and-evolution/#comment-171733 Thu, 03 Nov 2016 20:02:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4545#comment-171733 In reply to Kevin Mark.

I am not sure I understand your point about James Barr's position. As I understand him, he is saying the consensus is that the authors of Genesis believed themselves to be giving an historical account. However, Barr himself certainly doesn't believe Genesis to be an historical account, and I am sure the majority of biblical scholars would agree with him.

And of course the modern historical consensus is that there are two creation accounts in Genesis, stitched together but with the seams still showing, that are not consistent with one another. So there are separate questions about what the original authors thought and what the compilers and editors thought.

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