极速赛车168官网 Comments on: “The Martian” and Why Each Life Matters https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Mon, 16 Nov 2015 19:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154261 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 19:51:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154261 In reply to William Davis.

I guess courage is morally neutral if it is cancelled out by other immoral acts, but you are not arguing against objective morality instead you are arguing against the net effect of various objective morality measurements.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154252 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 17:32:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154252 In reply to William Davis.

That's not an argument against courage but it could be an argument against other forms of objective morality such as murder and stealing and covetness.
I'm not sure about how you would define a serial killer as courageous.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154247 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:56:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154247 In reply to Lazarus.

No problem. The way I understand objective morality is as something to measure against. It seems like you are defining it as the way that someone must behave/act.
So objective morality is not situational but always present even though we frequently fail in our attempt to measure up to it.

I suggested that courage is an objective moral behavior. There is not a situation where courage is not the correct objective behavior. I think you are saying that if courage is an objective moral behavior then we would always act courageously but we don't so it's not objective. Is that how you are seeing it?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Lazarus https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154241 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 14:37:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154241 In reply to Rob Abney.

My apologies, Rob, this discussion deserves book length replies ;)
I am under the gun at the moment, so time is a challenge at the moment.

Can you name any examples of objective morality? Truly objective, to be followed in all instances, at all times by all people? Or is morality situational?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154234 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 12:05:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154234 In reply to Lazarus.

I don't see an either/or situation. You have free will to adhere to the objective morality or to not adhere to it. Objective morality is an external measure that tells us what we ought to do not what we have to do.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Lazarus https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154216 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 03:09:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154216 In reply to Rob Abney.

Even assuming objective morality exists, and that is knowable, should free will not remain?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154214 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 03:05:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154214 In reply to Lazarus.

I don't understand, why should we not be so compelled?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Lazarus https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154213 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 02:59:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154213 In reply to Doug Shaver.

Yes, I think William Lane Craig argues for that, but I think it is an unsound argument.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Lazarus https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154211 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 02:56:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154211 In reply to Rob Abney.

We shouldn't be so compelled, in my view.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/the-martian-and-why-each-life-matters/#comment-154210 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 02:48:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6111#comment-154210 In reply to Lazarus.

Why would be compelled to accept objective morality if it existed? What does accepting moral objectivity look like? Does it only mean adhering to it or could it mean an external measurement?
I'll try an example: it is objectively immoral to reward cowardice; so courage is objectively moral.

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