极速赛车168官网 Comments on: Is Religion Evil? Secularism’s Pride and Irrational Prejudice https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: Doug Shaver https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-162404 Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:53:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-162404 In reply to VicqRuiz.

Is there a term other than "religion" which would encompass them both??

If we're looking for a label that doesn't beg any questions, how about "belief system"?

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极速赛车168官网 By: David Hennessey https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-161375 Tue, 05 Apr 2016 23:32:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-161375 It is authoritarianism that is evil and it is the root and substance of every religion, Christ attempted to eliminate it in his own tradition by eliminating the need for priests and establishing individual conscience as the superior guide to morality. The Roman Empire quickly squashed that heresy and re-established the priesthood through the Roman church and forced the early Christians to deal with it or die. They offered the Jews the same deal through Paul, one man could die and Jerusalem could stand, the Jews refused and Jerusalem was destroyed.

Religion can be less authoritarian but the very nature of being required to accept revealed doctrine as revealed through men, interpreted by earthly leaders and practiced in organizations leads inevitably to authority and submission. Needless to say, those required to submit are less enthusiastic than the authorities.

Whatever authorities emerge are always challenged, everyone wants to be the boss, when the authorities of one doctrine come in conflict with the authorities of another, no good comes of it.

The fact is, every person has their own, individual religion and beliefs, authoritarianism only prevents individuals from expressing their individuality and forces them to pretend to be identical in exchange for a conditional acceptance. Yes, this is a disease, Christ said he came for the sick, not the healthy.

By this statement, Christ revealed that there were people who already knew his cure, were already healthy because they had never been part of the Great Deception of Judaism, the Impossible Covenant. He came only for the Jews, he made that clear, the Jews were the ones with the fruitless sacrifices and endless guilt. The Romans practiced an almost identical Priesthood system based on Babylon and worshiping Zeus so they didn't even change their robes or scepters when they "converted" to Rome's Christianity.

If Christ wanted to save the Gentiles, he would have saved them from the authoritarian priesthood of Rome, he would not have enslaved them to a new bondage.

If all religion is authoritarian, it is all evil, you can't have much salt in that dish without calling it salty.

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极速赛车168官网 By: David Hennessey https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-161369 Tue, 05 Apr 2016 21:43:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-161369 "What about Hitler’s obsessive hatred of orthodox Christianity? Is religion itself really the problem? "

That's the point, Hitler was extremely religious, both sides in nearly every conflict are religious, saving lives was made more difficult by the religion of the rescuers, atheists and secularists were doing the same thing but without a religious identification hindering them. To say that religion, itself, is responsible for anything good, you must provide evidence that these people would not have done those good things if they were not religious.

There is plenty of evidence that religion, or lack of it, does not affect people's behavior or morality in any way, religious people do good things because they are people, not because they are religious.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Phil https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-150754 Mon, 05 Oct 2015 17:23:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-150754 In reply to David Nickol.

Another thought--while I have personally put LTTW off to the side, for now, for another reason besides anything having to do with prophecy, let us remember that it is entirely possible that a collapse has happened, just not in the way we are looking for it right now. (The final "crash" has definitely not happened yet though, but it is good to remember that we are already amidst collapse, as it is a process.) We always have to remember that in usual cases what we think prophecy is referencing is rarely true, it is only in hindsight that we realize what a true prophecy was actually referencing.

As Charlie talks about, this can be frustrating for us humans! But it is good because when we know too much info it feeds into our pride and we believe we can come up with a plan to "save ourself". The purpose of the coming "Storm" is for us to realize that when we turn away from God and don't rely on him for help, our plans lead to bad things. So God wants us to trust in him, not try and figure out the specifics of future events so as to try and save ourselves.

Literally every single event, every single day is allowed by God so that we can come into closer relationship with Him and accept eternal salvation. It is aimed at trying to get us to realize that we need to accept love and eternal salvation from God and not try and do it "our way" (which always ends badly if we don't repent of our pride).

This past month has been a great blessing for me because I thought I was ready for the storm, but I have come to realize that I am not even close to as ready as I thought I was. Thanks be to God that he gives us more time to grow in faith!

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极速赛车168官网 By: David Nickol https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-150574 Sat, 03 Oct 2015 21:33:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-150574 In reply to William Davis.

I just have to shake my head at those arguing that an economic collapse actually did occur...

Well, you see, an economic collapse isn't something that happens all at once. Look around you. It is clear that a collapse has begun. For example, Market Watch has the following article: Markets are back at panic levels, says Credit Suisse.

What has happened to the Locutions to the World web site? Someone who identifies himself as a deacon says on the Facebook page: "Satan has taken the site down. I get a message that soys some advertising firm has taken over and registered the site. I am sure these Locutions will continue to be posted here" [i.e., on Facebook].

Actually, if you know how to look, you can tell that the site has been moved from one hosting company (1and1) to another (GoDaddy). If you go to the URL, you will now find a generic "Website coming soon" notice.

The site is now registered through Domains By Proxy. Wikipedia says:

Subscribers list Domains by Proxy as their administrative and technical contacts in the Internet's WHOIS database, thereby delegating responsibility for managing unsolicited contacts from third parties and keeping the domains owners' personal information secret. However, the company will release a registrant's personal information in some cases, such as by court order or for other reasons as deemed appropriate by the company per its Domain Name Proxy Agreement.

Whether or not the ownership of the domain has changed hands, and whether or not there really will be new content for the relocated site is anyone's guess. You might think that if the site were merely being moved from one hosting company to another, there would be information on the Facebook page, but there is none.

I have uncovered more curious facts that perhaps I will get around to writing about later.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Phil https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-150562 Sat, 03 Oct 2015 19:44:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-150562 In reply to David Nickol.

I would recommend reading more of Charlie, because he does a good job at explaining what really goes on when one receives either some sort of a vision, apparition, or locution (whether it be heavenly origin or not). It is right in line with the doctors of the Church and the Church herself.

They have never listened and they still do not listen"?

Let's address this by assuming that we had a good idea that these words had a heavenly origin (that is very debatable right now though).

First, we have to understand that the specific words are sometimes being formulated by the person receiving them, and in the manner that they are capable of receiving them (this is slightly different for each person). A person may receive a "packet of info" in an intellectual locution and they have to put it into words. This can be very hard and can lead to an inexactness in language (this is why Charlie gave LTTW the benefit of the doubt for a while).

And then what exactly does the message mean? What we think is being said, may not be what is actually being said. We have to listen, reflect, and be slow to act sometimes. We have to be very careful, that is why as the messages got more and more specific, it started to send up some red flags for me.

But again, I don't think it is good to assume that these did have a purely heavenly origin at this point. Their overall message was good and was able to bring forth fruit, but there were some issues. Let us simply continue to keep watch and pray!

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极速赛车168官网 By: David Nickol https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-150561 Sat, 03 Oct 2015 19:34:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-150561 In reply to Phil.

Well, I certainly can agree with Charlie Johnson in his critique of Locutions to the World, but that's about it. Apparently he has always been skeptical, and I agree that the "locutions" were inauthentic.

I have been taking a look at some of the "locutions" and looking for information about the site and those involved. I came across this "locution" attributed to Jesus on June 15, 2014:

“I will no longer send messages to the popes. They have never listened and they still do not listen. Instead, I will send a pope who himself is the messenger. He will need to deliver the message to no one. He knows what he must do.”

“I say all of this because no one sees the magnitude of what is happening in the Middle East nor how close Satan is to gaining the power to turn the whole world into his hell.”

Really, how can any Catholic believe Jesus would say, "I will no longer send messages to the popes. They have never listened and they still do not listen"? The popes have never listened to Jesus? And he complains about it to some anonymous who is going to air Jesus's complaints about the pope and the Church on an anonymously run web site? What are we to think? Is it just Jesus the popes ignore, or the Holy Spirit, too.

All other issues aside, it seem to me that whoever is involved with Locutions to the Word realized that the failure of the predictions attributed to Mary were so wrong that the whole enterprise had to be abandoned. The Facebook page still exists, but there has been not a word from those in charge of it. And several commenters there are trying to argue that an economic collapse actually did occur.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Phil https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-150556 Sat, 03 Oct 2015 18:16:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-150556 In reply to David Nickol.

I found this awesome reflection on LTTW and prophecy in general. It speaks to several things I have been reflecting on in the past couple of months (including issues directly connected to LTTW). He also speaks about "tone", which was one of your points.

https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2015/09/28/on-prophecy-and-lttw/

And a reflection of today on the topic:
https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2015/10/03/grab-a-helmet/

I recommend some of his other blog posts as well. He is very smart, and he knows Catholic theology and spirituality very well. He also gives great insight into the storm that is coming.

As I was reflecting, it seemed that the best way to put what is coming is that humanity is going to go through a "dark night". If you are familiar with a dark night of the senses/soul, God allows a person's soul to enter into varying degrees of darkness so that it can be purified to love God and others more.

So humanity is going to purified through the mess we have made by abandoning God. But on the other side of "the storm" is the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary which will bring the presence of Jesus closer to us than it has been since Jesus walked the earth. This will be the time of peace promised at Fatima.

It is exciting because some people I know are getting a preview of this coming presence of Jesus and Mary, but it also means that it is going to be very hard and we must learn to detach ourselves from anything we are holding onto, besides God, so that we may love more completely and have greater faith and hope!

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极速赛车168官网 By: Phil https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-150136 Mon, 28 Sep 2015 23:31:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-150136 In reply to David Nickol.

Honestly, we are going to have to wait to see what happens. I am not a fan of great speculation in regards to events and dates of these sorts of things. I hadn't mentioned it before, but some time ago I did email the bishop of the diocese where these were coming from to see if he would have someone look into these to see if there were any issues on the grounds of faith or morals. In the end, only time will tell, and I'm perfectly fine with either conclusion.

In the end, it is normally only in hindsight that we can see what was truly prophetic and what was not. I will not claim to know why the words on the Pope's visit seem to be so off. But unless the words contain something that is contrary to well established Church doctrine or if they are leading many people away from Jesus, I will not make any quick judgments as to their validity or lack thereof.

Now in regards to specific dates of prophecies, I am always very hesitant to make a proclamation one way or the other. Prophecy is always conditional based upon the free decisions of persons. If we even look to a Church approved apparition like Fatima, the prophesy that WWII would break out during the reign of Pius XI seemed to be wrong on the surface level. The official fighting broke out during the reign of Pius XII. It can be seen looking back now that WWII did begin during the reign of Pius XI, but not in the way that we thought "begin" meant.

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极速赛车168官网 By: David Nickol https://strangenotions.com/is-religion-evil-secularisms-pride-and-irrational-prejudice/#comment-150135 Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:56:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=5679#comment-150135 In reply to Phil.

"These are private revelations and there is no need to believe them. . . .

The "locutions" on the web site you have brought to our attention are private revelations only if they are revelations. There have been private revelations which the Church has approved (Fatima, Lourdes), and it may be wise of the Church not to require belief in them. But it does not take any particular wisdom to say that if some anonymous person or persons claim to be receiving messages from Jesus and Mary, no one is obliged to believe in them just because they have their own web site!

May I ask what specifically you find strange about the "picture" of Mary that presented (in the words as a whole, not simply from a few days or weeks)?

From my point of view, there is no point in discussing these "locutions" further unless it can be explained—plausibly—why the ones you brought to our attention were so utterly wrong. I see that the site is down at the moment, and I wonder if those behind it are shutting it down in the light of such obvious failure.

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