极速赛车168官网 Comments on: The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Fri, 16 Oct 2020 01:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: abrogard https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-213796 Fri, 16 Oct 2020 01:15:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-213796 You've heard of Torquemada, perhaps? Grand Inquisitor. Estimated conservatively to have had burned at the stake some 2,000 individuals?
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Spanish-Inquisition

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极速赛车168官网 By: Jim the Scott https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-212213 Thu, 10 Sep 2020 14:51:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-212213 In reply to Ficino.

Also according to the Wiki QUOTE"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Inquisition#Papal_inquisition

QUOTE"One reason for Pope Gregory IX's creation of the Inquisition was to bring order and legality to the process of dealing with heresy, since there had been tendencies by mobs of townspeople to burn alleged heretics without much of a trial. According to historian Thomas Madden: "The Inquisition was not born out of desire to crush diversity or oppress people; it was rather an attempt to stop unjust executions. ...Heresy was a crime against the state. Roman law in the Code of Justinian made heresy a capital offense" (emphasis in original). In the early Middle Ages, people accused of heresy were judged by the local lord, many of whom lacked theological training. Madden claims that "The simple fact is that the medieval Inquisition saved uncounted thousands of innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people who would otherwise have been roasted by secular lords or mob rule" (emphasis in original).[13] Madden argues that while medieval secular leaders were trying to safeguard their kingdoms, the Church was trying to save souls. The Inquisition provided a means for heretics to escape death and return to the community.[13]" END QUOTE.

I don't think this person even read the original article closely. Nobody is claiming Church officials are sinless or have never participated in great evil. Even today we had a Cardinal who was a perv.

The article points out the total number of executions during the Spanish Inquisition was between 3000-5000 and his wiki link says the SAME THING!

This clown is just throwing mud trying to see what sticks in scatershop fashion. Anti-Catholics are tedious. Wither they deny gods or pound pulpits or whatever.

Cheer guy.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Ficino https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-212210 Thu, 10 Sep 2020 14:38:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-212210 In reply to TC.

After all the Catholic church scriptures place the Pope as infallible to such corruption of the human soul.

This sentence is best deleted. It is either inaccurate or at least, misleading.

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极速赛车168官网 By: TC https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-212207 Thu, 10 Sep 2020 12:59:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-212207 If you want to spread "Catholic church does no wrong" propaganda then at least try to make a better effort at it.

You say the church executed no one. Yet:

"In a letter written by Gregory IX to the Dominican priest, Conrad of Marburg, the first inquisitor in Germany, the pontiff instructs him as to the manner in which he is to proceed. “When you arrive in a city,” wrote the Pope, “summon the bishops, clergy and people, and preach a solemn sermon on faith; then select certain men of good repute to help you in trying the heretics and suspects brought before your tribunal. All who, on examination, are found guilty or suspected of heresy must promise complete obedience to the commands of the Church; if they refuse, you must prosecute them according to the statutes that we have already promulgated."

A minimum of 1303 victims grotesquely tortured to death can be proven inspite of the era in which this took place. If 1303 can be proven back in the middle ages then the actual number is probably astronomically higher.

Wikipedia lists the number of concretely provable deaths by torture at the hands of the church as a minimum of 1303 for fake crimes made up by the church such as witchcraft and heresy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition#Death_tolls_and_sentenced

The fact remains that the church orchestrated the inquisition and its grotesque torture methods. Arguing that the orchestrator is not responsible for the outcome of that which they orchestrated is simply playing with words. You cant hide the facts. The catholic church is clearly one of the single most evil organizations guilty of mass genocide in the past and since genocide is no longer an option today its depraved priests resorts to child abuse instead.

The following link highlights many of the key points which you conveniently ignore.

https://www.factinate.com/things/43-ominous-facts-spanish-inquisition/

Of course lets not forget the "St. Bartholomew's Day massacre" celebrated by the Pope and the catholic church. Sure you will present your wild card argument that "human souls are corruptible" Then you will say that "it was corrupt members of the church not doing the word of god". However the same excuse does not work when the Pope himself is involved. After all the Catholic church scriptures place the Pope as infallible to such corruption of the human soul. Plus not to mention the fact that the Pope is the leader of the organization.

"The St. Bartholomew's Day massacre (French: Massacre de la Saint-Barthélemy) in 1572 was a targeted group of assassinations and a wave of Catholic mob violence, directed against the Huguenots (French Calvinist Protestants) during the French Wars of Religion.

The Politiques, those Catholics who placed national unity above sectarian interests, were horrified, but many Catholics inside and outside France initially regarded the massacres as deliverance from an imminent Huguenot coup d'etat. The severed head of Coligny was apparently dispatched to Pope Gregory XIII, though it got no further than Lyon, and the pope sent the king a Golden Rose. The pope ordered a Te Deum to be sung as a special thanksgiving (a practice continued for many years after) and had a medal struck with the motto Ugonottorum strages 1572 (Latin: "Overthrow (or slaughter) of the Huguenots 1572") showing an angel bearing a cross and a sword before which are the felled Protestants.

Pope Gregory XIII also commissioned the artist Giorgio Vasari to paint three frescos in the Sala Regia depicting the wounding of Coligny, his death, and Charles IX before Parliament, matching those commemorating the defeat of the Turks at the Battle of Lepanto (1571). The massacre was interpreted as an act of divine retribution; Coligny was considered a threat to Christendom and thus Pope Gregory XIII designated 11 September 1572 as a joint commemoration of the Battle of Lepanto and the massacre of the Huguenots."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew%27s_Day_massacre

I'm sure you would have a different opinion had you found yourself at the mercy of the catholic church in the medieval times. You probably would be singing a different song while a church ordained torturer inserts a pear into your orifices and tear your insides while being observed in detail by the "pious" clergy of the catholic church with the blessings of the local bishop or cardinal or whatever.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Larry A Singleton https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-212204 Thu, 10 Sep 2020 08:12:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-212204 In reply to David Nickol.

Off topic. I don't know what's going on but my comments are getting scrambled like they were hit by a malware virus. Letters go missing and it looks crazy. It's been happening with other features too. Might have to reformat. Hate that.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Larry A Singleton https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-212203 Thu, 10 Sep 2020 08:10:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-212203 In reply to David Nickol.

Thanks. I'll fool around with it and see if I can get it. That bar; at the bottom of the disqus comment box?

Aaah. I think I just got it; "the quote marks".

Again; Thanks.

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极速赛车168官网 By: David Nickol https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-212201 Thu, 10 Sep 2020 06:27:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-212201 In reply to Larry A Singleton.

How in the heck did you get those vertical lines in there?

Those, and the above sentence from your comment, are blockquotes. There is a formatting bar below a comment when you are typing it. To use it, highlight the text you want to format and click on the appropriate symbol in the formatting bar. A few examples would be bold, italics, underscore, and strikethrough. HTML codes will be inserted for you. Highlighting text and clicking on the last symbol below (the quote marks) will give you a blockquote (with a "vertical line" at the left).

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极速赛车168官网 By: Larry A Singleton https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-212199 Thu, 10 Sep 2020 04:02:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-212199 In reply to GetItRight4aChange.

I'm glad I saw your comment. His, uh, rant is something I probably would have said to a "leftist". I'm in perpetual pissed off mode seeing what's going on today and the ignorance of some people. Especially when it comes to history.

I need a kick in the ass sometimes to remind me to tone it down. I'm big on history and you're right about Ad hominem attacks. (I'll have to go look that up)

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极速赛车168官网 By: Larry A Singleton https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-212198 Thu, 10 Sep 2020 03:54:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-212198 In reply to Andre Boillot.

How in the heck did you get those vertical lines in there?

I see these comments with hi-lited links and other things and I have no idea how to do it.

You don't have to answer. Even with the solution I'll probably never be able to figure it out.

I'll be adding your comment to this guy's article. Thanks.

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极速赛车168官网 By: disqus_ZOSMh0illA https://strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/#comment-207470 Tue, 11 Feb 2020 03:55:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3746#comment-207470 A Theologian with a PH.D. says the Catholic Church never tortured anyone-*? Say it isn't so !

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