极速赛车168官网 Comments on: Answering the “Confusing Revelation” Objection to Christianity https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Wed, 07 Feb 2018 21:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: Maxximiliann https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-186284 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 21:23:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-186284 So where are all the Christians?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Gary Torkeo https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-185217 Tue, 02 Jan 2018 20:56:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-185217 In reply to Mike17.

Many.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Gary Torkeo https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-185216 Tue, 02 Jan 2018 20:55:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-185216 In reply to David Nickol.

Eternal punishment/hell is the absence of God. Your choice. God isn't doing it to you, you have intentionally turned your back on God.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Jim the Scott https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-182697 Sat, 04 Nov 2017 16:25:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-182697 >Any all-knowing, perfectly wise, and perfectly good being will be maximally clear in revealing precisely what salvation requires in terms of belief and practice.

Speaking as a Catholic I rather enjoy brutally mocking this nonsense with some harsh sarcasm. Something to the effect of "Aw! How cute! An atheist/religious skeptic who believes in the Protestant doctrine of the perspicuity of Scripture! What else have you got? Can anyone produce an Agnostic who confesses transubstantiation? How about a metaphysical naturalist who believes Sacraments work ex opere operato?".

This premise begs the question. I believe God is maximally clear in revealing precisely what salvation requires in terms of belief and practice by setting up a Church with is the Pillar and Ground of Truth (1 Tim 3:15) which uses Scripture (2 Tim 3:16-17) and Tradition ( 2 Thes 2:15).

I see no logical way God can give us a written document that by itself has this property since all written statements have some level of ambiguity by nature in that they don't exhaustively examine every angle or explain everything.

The atheist who uses this objection on me or any Eastern Orthodox or any group that rejects Protestantism's view of perspicuity has to put on the hat of a Protestant Apologist and first convince me this Luther inspired doctrine is true before he can then turn around and use the 33,000 objection.

It's kind of a non-starter like an Atheist boring me to death with his anti-Young Earth Creationist polemics & well I am a Theistic Evolutionist.

PS. The 33,000 denominations objection which many Catholics use to attack Protestantism is itself questionable. Note his article by the National Catholic Register.

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/scottericalt/we-need-to-stop-saying-that-there-are-33000-protestant-denominations

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极速赛车168官网 By: dougshaver https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-181062 Fri, 29 Sep 2017 04:55:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-181062 In reply to Rob Abney.

seems like an issue not exclusive to your religious beliefs.

It's not, and it has nothing to do with my feelings about institutions per se. It's about my unwillingness to believe something just because someone says "You must believe," especially when they also suggest that such unwillingness is a character defect.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-181060 Fri, 29 Sep 2017 01:11:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-181060 In reply to dougshaver.

It sounds like you are not interested in joining any institution and/or you don't trust any institution, seems like an issue not exclusive to your religious beliefs.

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极速赛车168官网 By: dougshaver https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-181056 Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:03:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-181056 In reply to Rob Abney.

Do you belong to any institutions?

Not at present. I belong to one Facebook group, and I would not define that as an institution.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-181035 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:29:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-181035 In reply to dougshaver.

Do you belong to any institutions?

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极速赛车168官网 By: dougshaver https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-181034 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:17:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-181034 In reply to Rob Abney.

I was assuming that you were not interested in attending a church that focused mostly on reading the bible.

What I am not interested in is joining any institution that advocates beliefs for which it can offer no cogent arguments in their defense.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/confusing-revelation/#comment-181033 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:11:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=7407#comment-181033 In reply to dougshaver.

Maybe I don't understand what your question is, but I was assuming that you were not interested in attending a church that focused mostly on reading the bible.

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