极速赛车168官网 Comments on: Why the Scandals Increased My Faith in the Church https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: Mark https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-197071 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:00:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-197071 In reply to Edmund Jones.

Agreed. And the situation is worsened by abuse victims' reliability of recall of pertinent facts to a situation as displayed with Dr. Ford last fall in the SCOTUS hearings.

One thing everyone should agree with is that we need better and more unified reporting systems, better research, and better protections for victims of abuse. I, like you, realize there is not much recourse for victims of accusation, it sort of comes with the badge.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Edmund Jones https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-197068 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 19:28:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-197068 In reply to Mark.

I also understand how unsubstantiated accusations by mentally unhealthy individuals can ruin a person's career. We are guilty until proven innocent.

Of course one would have to agree with your above statement, however there is something of a "Catch 22" therein as sexual abuse from a trusted professional can lead to psychological problems or as you put it rather bluntly "mentally unhealthy individuals"

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极速赛车168官网 By: Mark https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-197065 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 16:41:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-197065 In reply to Edmund Jones.

The abuse statistic are not the same. In fact, according to a different scholastic article Shakeshaft produced while at Hofstra, it is about 100 times more likely your child is abused by a public school employee.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2004_01_06/2004_04_05_Dougherty_SexAbuse.htm

Also I don't want to add discomfort to your paradigm, but medical professionals are not as accountable as you believe. While cases like Larry Nasser are uncommon in the news, it is thought that as few as 1 percent of sexual misconduct and violation of doctor patient relationship are reported. Most of the time the reporting results in inquiry and temporary license revocation and if there is credibility the doctor or therapist go into treatment and get their license back with some restrictions to how they practice (i.e. have to have a nurse present)

http://doctors.ajc.com/sex_abuse_numbers/?ecmp=doctorssexabuse_microsite_nav

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1079063217712217

The problem with all these scenarios (clergy or other professions) is that the employers and the professionals are supposed to self report have an obvious conflict of interest. Civil courts are a joke, it really isn't about truth per see, it's about two people's story and who is most credible, high priced lawyers, BS and big $. As a licensed professional I understand the conflict, but I also understand how unsubstantiated accusations by mentally unhealthy individuals can ruin a person's career. We are guilty until proven innocent.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Edmund Jones https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-197062 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:52:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-197062 Even if the abuse statistics are the same for Catholic priests as in the rest of society that is of little comfort. The duty and calling of a priest surely is at least as comparable to a doctor and the courts take that duty of care into consideration when sentencing members of the medical profession.
The scandal in the Catholic Church is the leniency shown to the perpetrators of abuse which is fortunately now being addressed.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Jim https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-193262 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 03:30:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-193262 I have often wondered just how many altar boys a priest has to molest to qualify for Pope.

Any ideas?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Sandy Zaragoza https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-165431 Sun, 03 Jul 2016 01:46:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-165431 Wtf-were you born yesterday or just stupid? Sexual abuse is just that and who cares what the stats are and what context. The Catholics are freaks... And I can say that after attending a parochial school from grades 1-12 from 1968-1980. They are full of condradictions, hypocrisy , lies and deceit. Wake up it 2016 get your head out of your ass!!

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极速赛车168官网 By: skepticker https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-54880 Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:36:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-54880 The problem with all of the scandal in the Church has nothing to do with the numbers involved - it has to do with the doctrine of obedience. Would you instruct your child to do anything a priest tells that child to do outside of the confessional, for example, "See me in the sacristy for your penance." A child doesn't have discernment, and if you can't trust your child with a priest until you've evaluated the priest, then the doctrine is ridiculous. You simply can't, a priori, "obey" the hierarchy. If you can't trust them with children, why trust them at all? Why does the Holy Spirit call such people to the priesthood in the first place? Sorry, I just don't buy this junk anymore.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Max Driffill https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-52839 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:48:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-52839 In reply to Martin Sellers.

The beginning of the "analysis" at AIG, goes like this,

"Some people have wrongly assumed that Matthew and Luke (the author of Acts) are contradictory in their account of Judas’ death. Since the Bible is inerrant Judas cannot have died by hanging and died by falling and bursting open."

They begin with the a priori assumption that the bible is inerrant and then craft a rather poor interpretation to some how erase the contradiction. Sorry, we know the bible is errant in many of its assertions, thus, without much more evidence there is no reason even to deal further with the preposterous "scholars" at AIG.

Falling headlong and bursting open (that is to say falling HEAD FIRST) and then bursting open "in the middle" so that his guts shot out is the not the same thing as hanging oneself. There are other problems with the hanging story (who found Judas, what did they do, if anything with the body, why would anyone find him, the sum that Judas is alleged to get is a paltry one, why bother colluding etc).

And even if we grant that the falling head first and bursting open like a tauntaun on a cold day, were the same thing as hanging oneself from a tree we are still left with the fact that one cannot buy a field with money from the iniquity if one has thrown that money back into the temple (in another gospel the author claims that the field in question was purchased by a bunch of priests-twist that around AIG).

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极速赛车168官网 By: Michael Murray https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-52832 Wed, 04 Jun 2014 23:56:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-52832 In reply to Martin Sellers.

Blimey that was an old post :-) I've kind of given up responding here. I still lurk occasionally.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Michael Murray https://strangenotions.com/scandal-faith/#comment-52830 Wed, 04 Jun 2014 23:42:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2908#comment-52830 In reply to Martin Sellers.

Hi Martin, I'm responding for Andre B who was banned in the last purge. You can see his response to you over here.

http://outshine-the-sun.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/new-i-think-disqus-feature.html#comment-1419664276

Michael

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