极速赛车168官网 Comments on: How “New Existence” Implies God https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: Farmer Tom https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-229421 Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:38:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-229421 Substituting God for infinity gets you no closer to understanding anything. Suggesting that infinity/God is the God of Abraham and Moses, or any of the other fantasies created by men to subjugate others or try to quell the existential pain of our finite existence, utilizes an imaginary bridge over an infinite chasm between reason and emotion that cannot exist. Suck it up. You are here today and gone tomorrow. Full stop. Try to be a decent human being while you are here and not let your ridiculously selfish and illogical notions of your importance in the grand scheme of thinks f things up to badly for those yet to be.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Beavis https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-214965 Sat, 05 Dec 2020 16:05:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-214965 In reply to Rob Abney.

Ahhh, yes, it seems obvious now. I had serial COM ports stuck in my head so I couldn't shake COMmunication loose. Thanks for the help.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-214954 Fri, 04 Dec 2020 11:57:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-214954 In reply to Beavis.

It is an abbreviation for comment box, it's where you make a comment.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Beavis https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-214903 Thu, 03 Dec 2020 21:21:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-214903 In reply to Rob Abney.

Yes. It's not in the dictionary (Merriam-Webster), and Google 's first few links didn't help. Should I keep trying? You won't help me?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-214894 Thu, 03 Dec 2020 15:33:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-214894 In reply to Beavis.

Are you serious?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Beavis https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-214890 Wed, 02 Dec 2020 19:46:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-214890 In reply to Rob Abney.

I don't think this OP is novel or controversial, although it is presented in an accessible way by Dr. Bonnette and made even more accessible by his willingness to engage in the comboxes.

What are comboxes? Merriam-Webster doesn't have it and Google gives me links that don't make sense in this context.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Dennis Bonnette https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-200505 Sat, 29 Jun 2019 16:54:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-200505 In reply to Nova Conceptum.

And my reply this comment is posted there as well.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Nova Conceptum https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-200502 Sat, 29 Jun 2019 15:54:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-200502 In reply to Dennis Bonnette.

I don't have that nightmare, I don't know who does, for example in Evolution as Fact and Theory by Stephen Jay Gould he is clearly not having any such nightmare either.

That was 25 years ago, the views expressed were mainstream and ordinary among scientists even then: (scientific) “fact” does not mean "absolute certainty."

Explanation of the actual scientific materialist view can be found in my new post at the above link you provided.
http://disq.us/p/22rijzv

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极速赛车168官网 By: Dennis Bonnette https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-200494 Sat, 29 Jun 2019 04:22:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-200494 In reply to Nova Conceptum.

I can see that you have built a virtual epistemological wall around your materialism, cushioned with an ultimate safety valve claim that all such knowledge is most certainly provisional at best.

There was a time when, although I had religious commitments, I could not see how to defeat materialism myself. Yet, over time I began to discover certain "leaks in the dike" -- one by one -- where it just did not quite work.

I mentioned a couple of them to you earlier. But I just remembered the one I put up as my very first article on Strange Notions -- one that shows an epistemological trap that scientific materialism springs on itself, and one no one on this site has ever directly refuted.

It is based on the fact that natural science assumes that it is studying the real world around us, and yet its necessary epistemological inference is that we have no direct way of ever knowing that world. It strikes at the heart of the principle of empirical verification. But best you read it for yourself:
https://strangenotions.com/naturalisms-epistemological-nightmare/

If you follow the reasoning carefully, you will see that materialism contradicts its own starting point, epistemological realism -- and that this contradiction is a direct product of your philosophy of materialism. Worse yet, it turns out that the only way out of this contradiction is to abandon the philosophy of materialism.

I hope you find this article illuminating. This and other inherent self-contradictions in materialism force me to approach philosophy with a mental attitude open to the reality of non-material entities.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Nova Conceptum https://strangenotions.com/how-new-existence-implies-god/#comment-200489 Sat, 29 Jun 2019 02:25:00 +0000 https://strangenotions.com/?p=7461#comment-200489 In reply to Dennis Bonnette.

immaterial ... you simply rule it out of existence.

I can't rule out Russell's teapot or immaterial. Ruling out unevidenced speculations would require me to prove the universal negative, and that I am unable to do, being a mere man.

You trust reason in all your scientific investigations

Trust, like faith, is irrelevant to materialism. All is provisional, except I am absolutely certain I exist in some form, and therefore I am absolutely certain there is an existence as opposed to absolutely nothing at all.

you insist that good science give reasons for every claim,

Reasons in the descriptive sense, that can be modeled and verified observationally without violating existing provisionally accepted models, unless great evidence can be produced to show existing models are in error in some way.

you punt -- just saying we have to accept the fact that it is a brute fact with no explanation.

The ultimate why explanations simply are not available to we mere mortals, at least for now, I suspect forever, but perhaps in the distant future intelligence will advance sufficiently to actually answer the ultimate why explanation questions. At this point humanity is so hopelessly primitive in that regard that there is virtually zero prospect of such answers coming to be published in my lifetime.

To me, all this does not sound like a very scientific approach to reality.

Science presently finds no evidence for or necessity of immaterial that I am aware of.

And you still are ignoring the arguments I offer in the SN article on the immortality of the soul

Not so much ignoring as pacing my responses. You have been gracious enough to spend some significant time to engage with me on subjects I find interesting and on which we strongly disagree. I prefer to read the links you provide, consider them, do some relevant searches, and post more measured responses that keep the rational content high and the potential incivility at an absolute minimum.

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