极速赛车168官网 Comments on: Debunking the “One God Further” Objection https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Fri, 16 Oct 2020 04:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: WCB-2 https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-213799 Fri, 16 Oct 2020 04:00:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-213799 "But of course, that is not what God is at all. He is not “ being”
alongside other beings, not even an especially impressive one, but
rather Being Itself or Pure Actuality, that from which all mere “beings”
(including Thor, Zeus, and Quetzalcoatl, if they existed) derive the
limited actuality or existence they possess."

Being is not something that is separate from existing things. "Pure being is nonsense" Real things have the attribute of being. Hamsters, chairs, atoms, or stones. Things that do not exist in actuality do not have existence as an attribute.
Rainbow farting(69) unicorns, batman, fairies. God has existence, if and only if God exists. God is not existence, being itself. Quarks and gluons have existence. They make up baryons, which inherit their existence from quarks and baryons. Atoms inherit their being from baryons and electrons etc. molecules from atoms. Hamsters from their molecules.

Nothing inherits their existence from God unless you are claiming God is the equivalent of a quark.

If I bake a cake, that cake gets it's existence from my action of mixing ingredients and baking them. Likewise if God creates something, God gives that something existence by creating a real existent thing. That cake does not have some sort of magic thing, "being" that comes from my being. Nor is God being.

This is metaphysical nonsense a pseudo-profundity. To state that God is being is essentially immanence dressed up in fancy words. With all the problems of immanence as a hypothesis. If God's being is in everything, why is there evil if God is good? If God withdraws his immanence from evil beings or things, that evil would be eliminated. God's being that he emanates to all things has the same problem.

At best you cannot say God is "being itself", but only if God exists, God has being, and creates other real things that have being. If God exists, which is not provable.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Retsejretsej https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-213386 Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:35:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-213386 In reply to SJH.

Nope, nope. It's not a reason or an argument. It's an explanation as to why one group dismisses all gods including yours. If you want to understand why we dismiss your god, it's because we use the same criteria you use to dismiss all the other gods and have been convinced yours isn't real either. Now you can get into the specific arguments for your god existing or not, but that's not what the "one fewer gods" statement is saying. "You don't believe in 10,000 gods, but you believe in one. I don't believe in all 10,001 gods."

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极速赛车168官网 By: Retsejretsej https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-213385 Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:31:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-213385 You had it! You had it with the these two sentences, "Why do I dismiss all other gods? Well, in part because there is ample reason to think they do not exist."
That's it! That's the meme, the gist, the reason atheists say this. We dismiss YOUR god because there is ample reason to think they do not exist...just like we dismiss the others.

Despite your delving into triangles and delving into hypothetical Olympus and trying to prove what you perceive as the absurdity to ... to ... well, I'm not sure who you were trying to prove it to (other believers maybe? yourself?), this is ALL there is to it.
You don't believe in OTHER gods because there is amble reason to think they do not exist.
We don't believe in YOUR god for the same reason, hence, one fewer gods.

It's not about how you see your gods, its about us being not being convinced of your god. We aren't. We aren't convinced. Just like you're not convinced there is a Thor or a Zeus. There's amble reason to think yahweh doesn't exist. When you understand that ... and you haven't yet because you just wrote a whole blog on how you think its inept .. then you'll understand our position.
The quote isn't about you, it's about us and how you might try to understand us.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Doug Shaver https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-166299 Mon, 18 Jul 2016 04:22:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-166299 In reply to Garbanzo Bean.

The argument attempts to discredit one person's belief in one god, because that person has rejected other gods. The argument is silly, and Feser does a fine job of showing that.

And the counterargument boils down to: Oh, no, my God is not anything like those other gods.

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极速赛车168官网 By: David Nickol https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-165722 Fri, 08 Jul 2016 00:10:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-165722 In reply to Jeff Hinkle.

This society is finished, soon to be run by Muslims unfortunately.

Let us pray, then—to the Old Gods and the New—that our society hangs on long enough to wrap up Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, The Big Bang Theory, and Homeland, and also that it lasts long enough to give us at least one or two more seasons of Mr. Robot.

The night is dark, and full of terrors.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Jeff Hinkle https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-165719 Thu, 07 Jul 2016 23:44:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-165719 In reply to SJH.

This society is finished, soon to be run by Muslims unfortunately. Way to not address my points, which are reality. Whatever, you are part of the machine. You have nothing to gain by understanding the truth. Come put me in a gulag if you don't like it.

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极速赛车168官网 By: SJH https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-165718 Thu, 07 Jul 2016 23:37:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-165718 In reply to Jeff Hinkle.

What is your point? Your analysis of history is filled with assumption. Also, emotion and reason go hand-in-hand. you need both to live a successful life and be a productive member of society.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Jeff Hinkle https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-165672 Thu, 07 Jul 2016 17:41:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-165672 In reply to SJH.

Of course I'm speaking out of emotion. I don't regard reason as valid when it comes to most of actual living. Anyway, the "Christian God" is the Jewish God, presumably, and the Jewish God is a tribal deity named Yahweh, so when the heck did that become this unfalsifiable "classical" source of being? The father of Jesus is not a philosopher's god; that was just political maneuvering to persuade some "pagans" that the new Christian religion wasn't some Palestinian backwater offshoot, which is what it actually was. There is nothing in common between Greek and Roman philosophical thought concerning the divine, and the god of the bible. Just to be inclusive, Allah is also a tribal Arab god singled out by Mohammed. Nothing special or universal about him either. It's all a great trick that monotheists have pulled off and gullible people buy it.

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极速赛车168官网 By: SJH https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-165669 Thu, 07 Jul 2016 17:32:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-165669 In reply to Jeff Hinkle.

That statement is nonsense. You are speaking out of emotion and not reason when you say such things. If the Christian God is real then reason and logic would dictate that the wise and intelligent decision would be to follow him.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Jeff Hinkle https://strangenotions.com/debunking-the-one-god-further-objection/#comment-165550 Wed, 06 Jul 2016 12:07:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4377#comment-165550 In reply to Kevin Aldrich.

I'd love to know what relatable faith issues they write about. I'm sure their tomes are very sophisticated, unlike the faith of the "rubes" who are the real believers.

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