If a different point in space is your standard, very well.

Ok take care and all the best!

Your amazement is noted.

So is your perception that belief in God is a condition from which one might want to escape.

I do believe that I am "ordered matter/energy" following "complex natural laws". But it does not follow from that basis that what I say is false. Just as it does not follow that (according to you) because you have a soul, what you say is true.

A same exact complex natural law that your belief is based upon can come to both a false and true belief with the same data, therefore there is no way for you to know if something is actually true or actually false, that you believe (as compared to only appearing to be true to you). Therefore, you and I both would have no reason to believe that anything you say, or that anyone says, is actually true.

BTW just because something has a random component, does not mean that it is not following laws. Quantum mechanical systems have fundamentally probabilistic aspects to them, and yet they still obey laws.

I agree, laws can include probabilities.

But if something is actually random, nothing is ever more or less likely to happen than anything else--everything will have the same exact likelihood of happening. The probability of anything and everything that could ever happen is equal. This is obviously an issue if one wants to account for truth. Your belief that the earth is round is just as likely as your belief that the earth is a triangle.

And if your beliefs are based upon mere probabilities, there is no way to tell me that something you believe is actually, rather than only appearing to be true to you.

(The reason I can rationally believe that something I hold is actually true is because I don't hold that the human person's belief-making mechanisms completely reduce to complex material physiological processes.)

No. What is important, awesome, and beautiful is what I experience as a result of what those waves and particles are doing within me. What matters to me is the experience itself, not the particulars of what might be causing it.

I'll be honest i find atheists simply amazing! You folks seem to me to have a fascinating view of things that is so strange so (excuse me) weird that is just to me boggles the mind! I would say all the best in your search for truth however i am not sure if you even believe anything at all about anything.

take care.

PS don't read into my tone, i am just honestly gobsmacked by atheists' "escape hatches" from "god".

Seriously though thanks for engaging!

or is there something within the constituent parts some "potential" that becomes realized when combined in a "magical" way?

I'm not an Aristotelian. I have no use for potentials or realizations.

How do the parts "know" to arrange themselves in such and such a way?

Knowledge is something sentient creatures have. It is irrelevant to what other entities do or don't do.

is there some guiding principle that is in some way "moving them" towards greater complexity and ultimately "us" or is the "force" completely w/o telo/direction and we just seemed to have "popped" into existence by some strange cosmic accident?

I think there are principles at work, but I think any talk of "guiding" is prejudicial. I also think that calling our existence an accident begs a question or two about the universe having, or being the result of, a plan.

I do believe that I am "ordered matter/energy" following "complex natural laws". But it does not follow from that basis that what I say is false. Just as it does not follow that (according to you) because you have a soul, what you say is true.

BTW just because something has a random component, does not mean that it is not following laws. Quantum mechanical systems have fundamentally probabilistic aspects to them, and yet they still obey laws.

No, this is not true.

You say so. But if it truly is the case that you are no more than ordered matter/energy, then there is no reason for me to believe any of what you say. This is because all your beliefs are based completely upon either complex natural laws within functioning within your body, or is completely random. Neither of these give me any reason to believe that anything you say is actually true.

The only way to avoid this predicament is to hold that the human person always comes to true beliefs. But good luck defending that premise ;)

in the end it is one that truly resists being reduced to mere physiological workings

No, this is not true. Talk to any neuroscientist. Read some Oliver Sacks. The mind is in the brain. The brain is in the body. Two people, no matter whether genetically identical or not, do not share any brain function, and therefore they do not share any mind function. Simple as that.