极速赛车168官网 Comments on: Why the Church is Ahead of Mathematicians on Ecumenical Dialogue https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: NDaniels https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-88778 Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:00:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-88778 https://www.google.com/search?q=complementary+cirles&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#hl=en&q=complementary+intersecting+circles&imgrc=v3W37e8S7tkIUM%253A%3Bundefined%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fupload.wikimedia.org%252Fwikipedia%252Fcommons%252Fthumb%252F9%252F99%252FVenn0001.svg%252F2000px-Venn0001.svg.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FVenn_diagram%3B2000%3B1458

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极速赛车168官网 By: Agni Ashwin https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-88762 Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:47:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-88762 In reply to Christopher Hammond.

"That may not sound like a major distinction to non-specialists, but it is a huge one to us."

Sheldon would agree.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Luke https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-85294 Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:51:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-85294 In reply to Jeff_from_Mpls.

As Catholics, we have a better grip on the truth of things, but we understand and can explain more about human experience than the next ring out, and the one after that, and finally, the non-religious person.

Could you please provide evidence for these claims and define your terms (e.g., "the truth of things," "understand," "explain," "human experience")? Thanks in advance.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Jeff_from_Mpls https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-85234 Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:19:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-85234 As you move progressively toward the center, you are nearer to the truth. Those with training in philosophy of science will know that some of us -- not all of us -- say that a theory close to the truth has to (1) explain all the things the previous theories explained, and (2) explain new things, and explain in what sense the old theories are farther from the truth. So, Einstein would be central, and would be surrounded by a ring of clinging Newtons, followed by various fringe folks who still we must presume -- because they are human beings with an intellect -- desire to know the truth. As Catholics, we have a better grip on the truth of things, but we understand and can explain more about human experience than the next ring out, and the one after that, and finally, the non-religious person. Catholicism accounts for what they know, but we possess a context and a fulness of truth that the outer rings do not possess. Again, think Einstein and Newton. It's not a matter of "me smart" "everybody else dumb" but rather degrees of coming to rest in the fullness of truth. The Catholic model is fruitful and satisfying. Thank you Dr. Trasancos for this article.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Loreen Lee https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-85222 Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:46:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-85222 Pope Francis speaks of ecumenical thought: New Advent- today: http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/christian-unity-demands-encounter-not-theory-says-pope-44011/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+catholicnewsagency%2Fdailynews+%28CNA+Daily+News%29&utm_term=daily+news (A little 'theory')

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极速赛车168官网 By: Christopher Hammond https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-85135 Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:39:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-85135 As a mathematician, I feel compelled to point out that the model being contrasted was proposed by ENGINEERS, not MATHEMATICIANS. That may not sound like a major distinction to non-specialists, but it is a huge one to us.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Loreen Lee https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-85027 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 20:10:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-85027 Perhaps what she means, is that science is exploring the 'mechanisms' behind polarity within human relations, but she can give an example that, even within a restricted area, the CC is doing something? A theory vs. practice distinction!!!! But as I said, there is some confusion between ecumenical and evangelical!!!

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极速赛车168官网 By: Loreen Lee https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-84967 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:25:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-84967 In reply to David Nickol.

Perhaps there was a confusion in the meanings of ecumenism and evangelism.

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极速赛车168官网 By: David Nickol https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-84928 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 02:58:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-84928 In reply to Bob Drury.

However, this too would not be apropos, because the OP is addressing thought not grace.

If you place all Christians, Christian denominations, and Christian sects in the next circle out from Catholicism, you have the televangelists, the prosperity-gospel preachers, and the Westboro Baptist Church closer to the center than—in my humble opinion—they ought to be. Even if Catholicism is everything it claims to be, who is to say a Jew who knows and loves the "Jewish God" with all his
mind and all his heart is not closer to Truth than a Christian (or a
whole sect of Christianity) that misinterprets and misrepresents Jesus?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Doug Shaver https://strangenotions.com/why-the-church-is-ahead-of-mathematicians-on-ecumenical-dialogue/#comment-84925 Sat, 24 Jan 2015 02:57:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=4957#comment-84925 Any scientific insight into human behavior seems to elicit one of two responses from Christian apologists. Either (1) it's wrong or (2) the church has always said so.

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