1 - He says that the universe can pop from nothing and that the laws of the universe regulate this as such. However, what then determined the laws of the universe? Science has discovered why things are the way they are b/c the laws necessitate it be that way. But why are the laws they way they are?

Why for example in quantum physics can something come from nothing only to disappear and reappear again? The laws are incapable of monitoring themselves and regulating existence b/c they are not set aware they are. In other words, they have no will or determination. The universe is not self aware.

The point I'm trying to make is that the laws of the universe smack of intelligent design. If they were not as they are we would likely not have a universe, hence I don't believe these laws to be they way they are by mere chance. They are in fact necessary for the universe to exist which I believe proves that they themselves were designed and by default then so was the universe.

2 - Everything in Hawking's theories deals w/ what we know and can measure but if the universe was created then the creator clearly does not abide by the same laws that we do. Hence, the laws of the universe cannot apply to him / her / it.

Finally, how do we not know that in a small or great time frame in the future we will learn more about the laws of this universe which will then change everything we know or thought we knew about the universe? In other words, we will continue to learn and the argument will always change through new discovery. So for Hawking to suppose there is no God is reasonable but to say there is no God is not b/c we don't even know what we don't know.

But the matter isn't being created. The matter was already there, it was just extremely condensed. The big bang isn't the creation, yet the expansion of all mass and energy. And no, there wouldn't be a method of measuring the universe before matter ever existed (whatever that means) simply because matter always existed, the big bang was just the expansion of it.

"Because there is a law like gravity...will create itself from nothing"

Question, the law(gravity) could it have been measured while there was nothing (a singularity prior to any relativity)?

Im late 4 years, @twitter-1325432946:disqus i think you should read a little more on god, it's been said, god created everything man will ever see (this is most likely reworded in the bible, im not positive about the exact wording), this includes the whole entire universe as well as other universes if they were to exist, because one day man will be able to walk on pretty much everything as its being created once we are farther in the future i know my argument may not be strong but correct me if im wrong

Hey Chris,

In the end, no matter how one comes at these questions one ultimately gets to the point where one has the explain the existence of the material cosmos itself. Even if the material cosmos exists infinitely into the past, one still hasn't explained why an infinitely existing material cosmos exists in the first place.

In short, a material cosmos cannot explain itself from within. It is simply not rationally possible. That is why one is led to the rational explanation that that which is Being itself and exists apart from the material cosmos is the ground the material cosmos as a whole.

NO this is what YAHUAH= "I AM" the Alpha and Omega,
the Beginning and the Ending, the ONE who WAS, the ONE
who IS, the ONE who is to COME, The ALMIGHTY." rev.1:8

"IAM" the ever becoming ONE." HE existed far beyond our
meger UNiverse, there are some 10 heavens above what
we call earth.

Everything requires a First Cause, as nothing can create it
self, all things require a superior entity to "make" it, your
car, your home, this proved by First Law of Thermodynamics.

Second Law Thermodynamics of Energy decay, all things
DEgress from higher complexity to lower complexity. The
exact opposite of Evolution. on and on.So these LAWS were
also in effect at Creation as well as laws of Motion, nothing
MOVES of itself, all motion requires a MOVER aka GOD.
(Sr)