极速赛车168官网 Comments on: Was Jesus a Roman Fiction?

极速赛车168官网 By: jkckmkak

jkckmkak — Fri, 03 Jan 2020 15:28:00 +0000

In reply to Rusty Writer. John and Matthew, two of the 12 aposstles.

极速赛车168官网 By: Rusty Writer

Rusty Writer — Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:21:00 +0000

In reply to Rusty Writer. No historian backs the supernatural claims about Jesus. So, if you want to insist that the Jesus of history is real, so what? That man was a failed revolutionary who died on a cross and was buried in a mass grave (thus, the empty tomb). Not a word he said was recorded. The Bible Jesus is a typical godman myth, quite a common character 2,000 years ago. All gods are man-made myths. All religions are scams. The Jesus invented in the NT 70-150 CE was created by educated Greek Koine writers while JC and his alleged apostles were illiterate Aramaic speakers.

极速赛车168官网 By: Rusty Writer

Rusty Writer — Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:13:00 +0000

In reply to David Nickol.

The Catholic church teaches Mary was an eternal virgin, therefore your claim that Jesus had a brother is a joke. But, the truth is Jesus, Mary and the whole gang are fiction. There is no historical evidence of any of them. And you failed my challenge. Nobody ever saw a flesh and blood Jesus and wrote about him. Nobody. Jesus is fiction. See http://www.jesusneverexisted.com for more

极速赛车168官网 By: David Nickol

David Nickol — Wed, 18 Dec 2019 07:38:00 +0000

In reply to David Nickol. A somewhat nit-picky addendum. Paul is the first person to write about Jesus whose writings survive. Also, there is a great deal Paul doesn't say about Jesus. (One wonders, in fact, how much he knew!) So to say "from there the myth grew" is to imply that somehow everything we know about Jesus is an elaboration on, and addition to, Paul. I don't think any reasonable historian or New Testament scholar would argue that Paul "invented" Jesus.

极速赛车168官网 By: David Nickol

David Nickol — Wed, 18 Dec 2019 05:43:00 +0000

In reply to Rusty Writer. But Paul knew, and met in person, some of the people who did know Jesus personally (e.g., Peter, and James the Brother of Jesus). It is plausible (in my opinion) to think of Paul basically as the earliest branching-off point of Gentile Christianity, but Jesus clearly had a Jewish following at the beginning, and I do not think it is at all plausible to consider Paul the source of the Jesus we know from the Gospels, although Gentile Christianity already existed by the time the Gospels were written, and it clearly influenced them.

极速赛车168官网 By: Rusty Writer

Rusty Writer — Wed, 18 Dec 2019 01:46:00 +0000

In reply to Rusty Writer. Paul was the first to write about Jesus and his Jesus was a voice in his head. From there the myth grew.

极速赛车168官网 By: Rusty Writer

Rusty Writer — Wed, 18 Dec 2019 01:42:00 +0000

Name one person who saw a flesh and blood Jesus Christ, and wrote about him. You can't do it.

极速赛车168官网 By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 11 Oct 2019 21:25:00 +0000

Just because Atwill's Mythicism is not common does not make it wrong. There is much in the record to support it. It sure make's more sense given the war zone that ancient Judea was back them. Calling something a fringe theory does not make it irrelevant. Warm blooded dinosaurs were a fringe theory until professor Robert Bakker's groundbreaking work. Oops, I guess you don't believe that one either. Flintstones Forever! Yabba Dabba Doo.

极速赛车168官网 By: Jack Loganbill

Jack Loganbill — Sun, 30 Jun 2019 23:46:00 +0000

In reply to Chris West. I have read that Pauls letters preceded the gospels, yet paul quotes verses from Luke...hmmmm

极速赛车168官网 By: Keith Charles Cannon

Keith Charles Cannon — Sun, 02 Dec 2018 13:14:00 +0000

Not to mention that the oldest continuous Christian community is in Iraq and a good portion of the first Christian Churches were in Asia, not Europe. The Christian church is Iraq was in an area controlled by Parthia, which was at war with Rome from 66 BCE to 217 CE. Parthia was accepting of Christians because they wanted Jews to help them fight Rome and in reality, Babylon was the center of Jewish activity.... Jerusalem was where the extreme Orthodox Jews lived because of the Temple. While Parthia accepted Christians, at the same time Rome persecuted Christians. It is obvious to me that Christianity was started by Jews to infiltrate and subvert the power of Rome.... which it did, Rome eventually accepted Christianity and fell apart with Europe plunged into the Dark Ages while Jews in Babylon lived in luxury.
The interesting part is that thr Talmud, which states that Jesus had a Roman father and was of an illegitimate birth.... a mamzer, ineligible to be a Jew, defiantly the worst choice to make for Jews to accept as a Massiah.