极速赛车168官网 Comments on: Theism Without Religion and Atheism With It https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: Steve Brown https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153496 Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:04:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153496 In reply to LaDolceVipera.

Hello there. It's been awhile since I commented. I think it is better to identify God in the category of Analogy of Being. Metaphor is one type of analogy. There are 4 basic distinctions of being as analogy. The analogies lie somewhere in between univocal and equivocal.
For a good breakdown see here:
https://thomism.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/analogy-in-st-thomas/

and here:

https://www3.nd.edu/Departments/Maritain/etext/LOA5.htm

this lecture gives a sense of analogy, only George seems to identify it as "topology"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYaoAoijdQ&feature=youtu.be

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极速赛车168官网 By: Loreen Lee https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153133 Mon, 02 Nov 2015 18:17:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153133 In reply to Loreen Lee.

The links in the above article at least have helped me to understand the concept of 'poetry' - extended to poiesis, auto-poises, which would include not only self-determination but individual responsibility, and thus feel I have indeed found what I was searching for, as an interpretation of Heidegger's philosophy. I am also satisfied that I have at least understood what I assume to be a conception of a 'human' freedom of will, examined with respect to external and/or institutional power and/or authority over the individual. Surely such distinctions can be regarded as helpful in coming to an understanding of the 'personal' and/or the 'divine', and/or even such distinctions as that between the empirically external, in contrast to the many possible 'modes' that can describe the experience of thought 'within'? You will of course note my failure tp achieve 'perfection' with respect to my choice of words!! Yet I am satisfied that this exercise of responding to comments, as a means of searching for answers has been sufficiently productive 'for me'....at this time???..Thank you for your patience with me. I do appreciate the links I find, even on the post that has been published following this one, and possibly too, you will find the following links of some relevance to today's topic. They do after all, do they not? reflect a post-modern, post Christian perspective!!???? .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Oedipus and although there are many excellent links within this article, there is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poiesis

Edit: This comment is being placed here some time after the original posting. Perhaps though, it will be found by someone who is interested. https://books.google.ca/books?printsec=frontcover&vid=LCCN88019831&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

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极速赛车168官网 By: Loreen Lee https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153122 Mon, 02 Nov 2015 14:54:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153122 Perhaps you will allow this submission (you can always yourself choose not to read, or the monitor can choose to delete any submission I make), of what might perhaps definitely meet the criteria of 'Strange Notions'. It is the hope, however, that this pursuit could meet scientific criteria, as I interpret the phrase of Nietzsche', in his use of the title 'The Gay "Science"'. (We see even here how important 'interpretation of words' can be). As hopefully, a project such as this does not necessarily evolve into a closure that we are aware characterized his later years, I am rather hopeful instead, that as he suggested, his life may be used as an example, to come, within our individual lives, to some understanding of 'how' we think. Developing this perspective with respect to a possible Mad=venture, therefore, I submit is also the result of reading the Postmodern book, Capitalism and Schizophrenia, anti-oedipus - capitalism and schizophrenia, wherein Schizophrenia is regarded as 'a/the' cure (Deleuze and Guattari) for instance, as well as other interpretations of the 'spiritual?' within recent literature. Thank you. (A personal explanation of some of my interests with respect to this project is found within the comments). (Edit: Perhaps, hopefully, it is possible to come to some understanding even of what is 'meant' by the 'Holy Ghost'!!!!!- which I intuitively associate with overcoming the 'negative' influences.)
https://recoverynetworktoronto.wordpress.com/2015/11/02/connecting-to-madness-jim-van-os/#comment-5439

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153101 Sun, 01 Nov 2015 22:25:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153101 In reply to Ignatius Reilly.

"Why should we presume that the Church brings us closer to God?"

Good question. The Church, as instituted by Jesus Christ, offers us the opportunity to confess our sins against God's will, be given the grace of forgiveness, and partake in the communion of Christ. That is as close as you can get to God while in this present human form.
I can agree that there is a higher form of flourishing, that is man's response to God's gifts, such as a painter painting a masterpiece.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Ignatius Reilly https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153098 Sun, 01 Nov 2015 19:43:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153098 In reply to Rob Abney.

I wouldn't call it utilitarian. If our goal is to actualize human potential, I don't think living virtuously adequately captures what it means for humans to flourish. For instance, painting a masterpiece is clearly flourishing for the painter, but I do not see how it falls under a virtue.
I'm also curious as to why the Catholic Church reject that homosexuals should actualize their sexual potential, which is clearly an example of human flourishing.

Finally, what Marc offers as examples of religious virtue respect for authority, deferment to priests, genuflecting etc is not conducive to human flourishing. Slavery is not flourishing.

Let us suppose that you are correct. Our goal in life is to grow closer to God. Why should we presume that the Church brings us closer to God?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153097 Sun, 01 Nov 2015 19:23:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153097 In reply to Ignatius Reilly.

Today is All Saints Day, our potential to be actualized is for us all to be Saints. A Saint is an individual who lives in the presence of God. The purpose of the Church is to teach everyone how to do that, such as by teaching us to live virtuous lives. Is that utilitarian?

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极速赛车168官网 By: Ignatius Reilly https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153096 Sun, 01 Nov 2015 17:14:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153096 In reply to Rob Abney.

So it utilitarian? Greatest realization of potential for the greatest number?

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极速赛车168官网 By: NDaniels https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153094 Sun, 01 Nov 2015 16:02:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153094 In reply to William Davis.

When you deny Divine Law, anything can become permissible including professing to be Christian while not desiring to abide in The Word of God.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rob Abney https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153091 Sun, 01 Nov 2015 03:41:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153091 In reply to Ignatius Reilly.

Yes, should be our full potential rather than singular. Trying to be concise.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Ignatius Reilly https://strangenotions.com/theism-without-religion-and-atheism-with-it/#comment-153090 Sun, 01 Nov 2015 03:38:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=6151#comment-153090 In reply to Rob Abney.

So, actualizing your full potential is the purpose of human existence? It is the good that we should aspire to?

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