极速赛车168官网 Comments on: Science and Faith: Two Paths of Knowledge

极速赛车168官网 By: kimberly43523@mail.ru

kimberly43523@mail.ru — Wed, 22 Feb 2017 07:31:00 +0000

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极速赛车168官网 By: Q. Quine

Q. Quine — Mon, 20 May 2013 16:54:00 +0000

In reply to Michael Murray. If only ...

极速赛车168官网 By: Michael Murray

Michael Murray — Mon, 20 May 2013 12:09:00 +0000

Once a scientific possibility is convincingly shown to be the case,
however, the honest person must assent to it. The will is forced by the obviousness of what is demonstrated by science; we are not free to refuse it and remain honest with ourselves.

Can we paste this somewhere on the site in bold letters. It would save a lot of discussion.

极速赛车168官网 By: physicistdave

physicistdave — Mon, 20 May 2013 09:16:00 +0000

Very poetic.

Let's be less poetic: faith is fantasizing, guessing, or make-believe.

Always.

Some people had faith in Communism, some in the Fuehrer, and some in a make-believe God who planned on torturing the vast majority of the human race for all eternity in Hell.

Which of those faiths is the most evil?

Dave Miller in Sacramento

极速赛车168官网 By: Q. Quine

Q. Quine — Mon, 20 May 2013 05:49:00 +0000

Every day we each make decisions based on what we expect to happen. Some make decisions on faith. I let my friends and family know that I am not a person of faith, and so they ask about how can I go on? I tell them that I use "reasonable expectations based on prior evidence."

极速赛车168官网 By: NoahLuck

NoahLuck — Sun, 19 May 2013 21:20:00 +0000

> In natural science, thinking occurs first and makes assent possible and
even necessary. But in faith, assent and thinking walk hand in hand;
they occur simultaneously and balance each other.

Better would be to say that, in scientific thought, assent is given in proportion to the weight of the evidence. In faith, assent is given before the evidence, out of proportion to the weight of the evidence, and often in opposition to the direction the evidence. The critical flaw in faith is that it looks and works exactly the same whether you have faith in something real or something imaginary.

“The instant you hear about anything whatsoever that varies between a
spy and a nonspy, you should immediately think of exploiting it to
distinguish spies from nonspies. Similarly, to distinguish reality from
lies, you need a process which behaves differently in the presence of
truth and falsehood – that’s why ‘faith’ doesn’t work as a discriminant,
while ‘make experimental predictions and test them’ does.”

— spoken by Harry in Eliezer Yudkowsky’s “Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality”, Ch. 86. See http://www.hpmor.com.