极速赛车168官网 Comments on: Come, Let Us Do Science Together https://strangenotions.com/science-together/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Mon, 22 Jul 2013 23:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: Kevin Aldrich https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-23775 Mon, 22 Jul 2013 23:59:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-23775 In reply to M. Solange O'Brien.

The difference is doing something to the act (making it infertile) and not doing something to the act (waiting until it is infertile).

Anyway, why do you care?

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极速赛车168官网 By: M. Solange O'Brien https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-23736 Mon, 22 Jul 2013 23:09:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-23736 In reply to Kevin Aldrich.

Timing renders that sexual act infertile. Or chemicals render that sex act fertile.

No difference.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Q. Quine https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-19320 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 03:47:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-19320 In reply to Susan.

Thank you, Susan.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rick DeLano https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-19319 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 03:44:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-19319 In reply to Q. Quine.

Quite to the contrary.

Take a nice internship at Hell's Creek, Montana.

Find a dinosaur bone in a Cretaceous layer.

Take it to the lab.

Open it up.

Notice blood cells, soft tissue, collagen.

Call your prof.

Have him look through the microscope.

Notice how he frowns.

"What do you think they are?", asks prof.

"Looks like blood cells and soft tissue to me", replies intern.

"So prove to me that they aren't", says prof.

True story.

The intern was Mary Schweitzer.

The prof was Jack Horner.

The story is told in "Blood From Stone", in a 2011 issue of Scientific American.

Evolution is not a scientific research program.

As Karl Popper had it right the first time, evolution is a metaphysical research program.

http://magisterialfundies.blogspot.com/2012/02/marys-bones-part-iii-is-evolution.html

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极速赛车168官网 By: Susan https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-19317 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 03:28:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-19317 In reply to Q. Quine.

Beautiful post, Q. Quine.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Q. Quine https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-19315 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 03:27:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-19315 In reply to Stacy Trasancos.

I'd have never gotten anywhere if the profs has said, "Make up your own truth, see ya."

Your profs would never have gotten to be your profs, in science, if they taught students that way. You have to go to the postmodernist or theology dept. for that. Science tests against empirical evidence. If the test does not work the theory must change, not the other way around, which seem to be the case when you write:

I see God as Truth, and the Church the guardian of it.

In science, the conclusion is the last step, not the first.

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极速赛车168官网 By: severalspeciesof https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-19306 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 01:36:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-19306 In reply to Stacy Trasancos.

Thanks for the clarification. But I am curious, has anyone here said that science should be 'Make up your own truth'?

Glen

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极速赛车168官网 By: Stacy Trasancos https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-19301 Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:39:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-19301 In reply to Q. Quine.

That article is about getting into college (passing standardized tests), not being successful once there, or thereafter.

I appreciate your concern. I have no problem teaching evolution, I support it, I teach it to my own children. I study it myself. I just don't think it is the biggest educational crisis before us, and if your point was that religious values hurt education, I strongly disagree. But that's a whole other discussion.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Max Driffill https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-19289 Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:06:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-19289 In reply to Q. Quine.

There was a great line in the comments about Chesterton being merely clever and not often profound. It think that characterizes the quoted passage above. A clever writer, but not a clever philosopher or apologist. I"m sure if one were a Christian his musings would seem excellent. But to an outsider his musings look unexamined, and shallow.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Q. Quine https://strangenotions.com/science-together/#comment-19287 Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:51:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=3378#comment-19287 In reply to Stacy Trasancos.

Stacy, the question has been examined. Please take a look at:

http://ncse.com/rncse/18/3/quantifying-importance-evolution

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