极速赛车168官网 Comments on: 20 Arguments For God’s Existence https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/ A Digital Areopagus // Reason. Faith. Dialogue. Wed, 20 Jul 2022 07:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 极速赛车168官网 By: Vin Rohm https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-227588 Wed, 20 Jul 2022 07:51:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-227588 My goodness. Such poor reasoning. But that's what happens when you reason from opinions instead of from facts. Let's take this example:

"Briefly, if there is nothing outside the material universe, then there is nothing that can cause the universe to change."

Clearly, if there is nothing outside of the universe influencing change, then the source is INSIDE the universe. I find the notion that there is such a place as "outside of the universe" absurd, since "outside" is typically a spatial location IN THE UNIVERSE. There is simply no such place. The universe is EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS, to include space, time and matter.

Let's look at another.

"1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause for its coming into being.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause for its coming into being"

At the quantum level there are no causes. A cause is, by definition, an event in time that produces an effect later in time. To begin to exist, then, is an event in time.

Did the universe begin to exist, or was the Big Bang event the beginning of space and time? The first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy can neither be created or destroyed in an isolated system. So, the universe was a metastable false vacuum of energy which collapsed inflating space and time into existence into which primordial quantum matter could coalesce out of the energy vacuum (m=E/c2).AKA, the Quantum foam.

So, in essence, the universe never began to exist, so even if 1 is correct, it has no application to the universe. And since time didn't exist until the Big Bang, there could not have been a moment IN TIME that was its cause. Time, then is the uncaused first cause, not "god". 2 is clearly someone's uniformed opinion and so 3 is a false conclusion that is compounded by an additional conclusion that this uncaused first cause is god.

I can do this all day to your 20 arguments (I have done this to as many as 36 such arguments for God. They all have flaws and logical fallacies.) Bad philosophical arguments are not convincing.

I am a life long atheist. I have always been this way. And the more I look at someone's evidence for god, the more I realize that it was never evidence to begin with.

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极速赛车168官网 By: josephpalazzo https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-225826 Tue, 01 Mar 2022 11:30:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-225826 From argument 2:

That is, suppose there is no Uncaused Being, no God. Then nothing could exist right now.

In that statement, you've already assumed that God exists. So your whole exercise ( 20 arguments) of proving the existence of God already exists in your assumptions. Circular reasoning has never proved anything.

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极速赛车168官网 By: phreniu https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-221693 Sat, 28 Aug 2021 14:10:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-221693 In reply to StEwPiD_MoNkEy.

cope more

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极速赛车168官网 By: John P Glackin https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-220858 Wed, 04 Aug 2021 01:34:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-220858 But in the end the only way you can know God is through His Jesus.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Rajinder Nijjhar https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-219894 Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:57:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-219894 Floods in Europe are of the revengeful Yahweh for killing innocent people in Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. by bombing under the Blasphemy that Saddam Husain has WMD when none were found.
https://youtu.be/baNPdWHyZog
So, Tony Blair and Bush were the greatest Blasphemer Killers in destroying one country after the other. This was the work of Satan whilst Yahweh protects the sons of Adam. There will be many more natural disasters in the USA and Europe in proportion to their Bombs. Tares - Matt 13v24-30 are getting bundled up in Israel for the Final Burning by Elohim, Allah, Parbrahm, etc., which is expected when Israel is 75 years old - 14/05/2023.
Under the Divine Love Agape of our Supernatural Father of our soul that has no gender or colour and being the son of God is a spiritual Man whether in flesh you are a man or a woman, Jew or Gentile, etc. and that twice-born, we Fish into the Royal Kingdom of God and become the Fishers of Men. Under Agape, you cannot throw any Brethren away from your country. Agape, our base in Christianity, is greater than the Eros, which Moses created in the wilderness and no more rift called lifting up the snake. Under Agape, we become “Peacemakers”, which the politicians cannot dream of - Luke 1v26-38:- Why John came 6 months ahead of Jesus and A.D. starts when Jesus was in his 7th year?
https://youtu.be/slBoqEZe0XY
"Eternal Life" and the storge love as demonstrated in Lazarus, Who shared the Table with our Father Elohim.
https://youtu.be/HbPgAUNUJLM
Sons of Man = Abraham, an Ideal Adam with Sarah as Eve and the Promised Land = Garden of Eden and not of the Satan Al-Djmar Al-Aksa, the Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Muslims, outwardly of the physical body instead of their tribal fathers, Ilah, with Covenant with Adam whose Temple is Kabah – John 8v44 as they became at the times of Jesus, written Torah that had its roots in the Oral Torah in the hands of clean-hearted Rabbi of the Levi tribe, it worked well as demonstrated by the Rabbis of the Samaritans who were Perfect Matt 13,v52 applied to them. The Samaritans, the generation of Joseph stayed faithful to Abraham and Yahweh suitable to receive the Oral Torah, His Word as reflected in the Samaritan Woman at well who vetted Jesus in the holy spirit and not by the dead Books of the Law as today these hireling Dog-Collared priests take the forbidden Bible as their authority in Christ Jesus and not His Word, the Oral Torah that overrules the Bible as demonstrated by the Russians when they locked their Priests and burnt their Cathedrals under communism that Jesus had introduced. Under greed, the Jewish Rabbis passed by the wounded person whilst under contentment the Samaritan showed mercy against him and looked after him on a philanthropic basis where the divine Love “Agape” far greater than Eros is exercised. Thus, Russians are supporting the righteous people whilst the USA, the home of Jews outwardly sons of Satan, Mammon and Media, are supporting the Rebels as expected of the sons of Satan, who destroyed the Homeland Iraq of their most Noble Forefather faithful to Yahweh and Elohim Abraham with a lame excuse that Saddam Hussain had WMD, a total lie called Blasphemy that the people of America are repaying through floods, Hurricanes and this Corona Virus that will create a war between the poor and the rich. Even a civil war between the KKK white and the Lamb of God black victims is expected to settle their scores.

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极速赛车168官网 By: John Vincent https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-218938 Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:53:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-218938 God's existence is needed for idiots who can't grasp the obvious. Much like we can defend the existence of the sun based on its effects.

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极速赛车168官网 By: Gary Whittenberger https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-205944 Sun, 15 Dec 2019 12:50:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-205944 In reply to next channel next.

But your first premise is false. Because of this your argument fails.

You are using an invalid definition of GOD. Here is the valid one:

GOD is the hypothetical unique, eternal, all-knowing, all-powerful, perfectly moral person or intelligent agent who created the universe and sometimes intervenes in our world. This is the god believed in by most Jews, Christians, and Muslims. The word “GOD” is the proper name for this one specific god, just like “Thomas Jefferson” is the name for one specific man and US president.

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极速赛车168官网 By: next channel next https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-205941 Sun, 15 Dec 2019 05:52:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-205941 In reply to Gary Whittenberger.

You said :

This single argument is solid:
The Argument from Evidence
1. If God did exist, then we humans across all generations would already have plentiful, objective, and unequivocal evidence of its existence.
2. We don’t have this evidence today.
3. Therefore, God does not exist.

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I said:

1. GOD = Goodness in Science and Conscience
2. Goodness is always with us, everyday.
3. Therefore, GOD is Omnipresent. ("exists" Eternally).

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极速赛车168官网 By: next channel next https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-205926 Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:30:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-205926 In reply to Gary Whittenberger.

I Believe in GOD As Eternal GOoDness Alive and Active ReSiding and Indwelling in all Logical GOoD Sciences and ConSciences (except in those who sin against GOD's Holy Spirit).

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极速赛车168官网 By: next channel next https://strangenotions.com/god-exists/#comment-205925 Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:23:00 +0000 http://strangenotions.com/?p=2489#comment-205925 In reply to Max.

Omnipresent GOoDness Being GOD Answers all your queries.

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